Jamie

International Thanksgiving Day 4 Miler

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Member Since:

Nov 05, 2007

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

Seven Marathons

PR 3:14:17 St. George 2007

Long-Term Running Goals:

Sub 3 hour marathon.

Personal:

Married.  Stay at home mom.  My husband and I have 2 daughters and 4 sons.  And I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

With a seemingly impossible long-term goal of running a sub 3 hour marathon, the following scriptures give me hope:

In your patience possess ye your souls. Luke 21:19

But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. James 1:4

But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. Romans 8:25

Submit cheerfully and with patience to all the will of the Lord.         Mosiah 24:15

And Ezra teaches that discipline and patience are born of disappointment.

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Race: International Thanksgiving Day 4 Miler (4 Miles) 25:35:06, Place overall: 5, Place in age division: 1
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Happy Thanksgiving!  I enjoyed this race and hope to do it again and again.  Alexis and Luke ran their divisions.  Alexis was 11th Female for the 400meter.  Luke was 4th Male for the 100meter.  It ended up being a lot of fun...despite the cold temperatures.  I feel pretty good about my time but have a lot to learn about racing (my splits weren't as even as they could have been).  It felt like a good tempo run.  I took 5th Overall Open Women and 1st in my division (25-29).  Came away with 2 turkeys and a pie!  Bring on the grub; it's chow time!

Here's how this morning went:

Warmed-up (a very relative term) for about 2 miles.

Just after the start, the men and women merged into one body of racers and I saw Sasha.  He told me I was starting too fast.  It startled me and I eased the pace up.  I heard Ted and James (his son) behind me, just after the first quarter mile(?).  Paced with them for the first mile and felt comfortable.

#1  6:17  Wanted to pace at about 6:15, so I wasn't too worried.

#2  6:33  In the second mile, Ted mentioned that I ought to leave them and pick it up a bit. 

Into the third mile Sasha's chanting of "ta, ta, ta, ta" (from Monday) came to mind...and I sped up my leg turnover.

#3  6:14

#4  6:31  Paced with a guy ahead of me for the last mile (the next closest girl was more than a minute ahead).  Passed him but should have done it sooner.  Out kicked two men in the last stretch.  Next time push in from the corner and then hard at the straight-a-way.

6:23 Averaged pace.

Suggestions from Sasha:  Some thoughts. 3rd mile marker was off by about 7 seconds. So that would give you 6:21 for mile 3, and 6:24 for the last mile. Still even with this adjustment your pacing through the race is really odd. 1st mile was just right, 2nd way too slow, 3rd just right, last mile too slow especially considering that you kicked at the end. This is actually consistent with what I observed in the Uneventful Half. It seems that your mind drifts at times and you start running 20 seconds per mile slower than what your fitness would allow you.

To fix. Buy or borrow a measuring wheel (GPS is not good enough for this). Measure out a 3 mile course, as flat as possible, mark every quarter. Twice a week do tempo runs on it trying to hit every quarter not slower than any of the preceding ones. Start with 6:28 pace as a target (1:37 quarters), move it up gradually over time as the fitness increases.

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Comments
From MichelleL on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 15:50:58

Good job on the race, Jamie! Good job dropping your third mile split after mile 2. Overall 6:23ish pace, that is a great pace. Happy Thanksgiving!

From Jamie on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 15:56:52

Forgot to add the averaged pace...thanks for the reminder. Hope you're enjoying your Thanksgiving Day! A little indulgence is good today...don't beat yourself up so much.

From josse on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 17:28:12

Great job Jamie on the race. You are awsome!

From Tom on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 18:53:50

Great job on the race Jamie! I hope they post the results soon so I can see if you chicked by old high school buddy Bob!

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:35:48

YESSS! What a great race! Great time, won your age div., AND chicked those guys in the end. Excellent!

From Jamie on Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 21:11:01

Thanks for the "congrats" on my race everyone. It's great to have the support. Not the most steller performance, but it'll do. Hope you all are enjoying the holiday weekend!

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:30:41

Some thoughts. 3rd mile marker was off by about 7 seconds. So that would give you 6:21 for mile 3, and 6:24 for the last mile. Still even with this adjustment your pacing through the race is really odd. 1st mile was just right, 2nd way too slow, 3rd just right, last mile too slow especially considering that you kicked at the end. This is actually consistent with what I observed in the Uneventful Half. It seems that your mind drifts at times and you start running 20 seconds per mile slower than what your fitness would allow you.

To fix. Buy or borrow a measuring wheel (GPS is not good enough for this). Measure out a 3 mile course, as flat as possible, mark every quarter. Twice a week do tempo runs on it trying to hit every quarter not slower than any of the preceding ones. Start with 6:28 pace as a target (1:37 quarters), move it up gradually over time as the fitness increases.

From sarah on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:34:45

You are so good...Sasha's ta ta ta ta made me tell him to shutup (a word I don't ever say...but at the end of a race when my husband is chanting at me) I guess I take him for granted and should be better at taking his coaching and not getting upset but I'm still not used to my personal trainer being my husband...Great race. I guess it's all relative but I can only dream of being as fast as you. I hope however that you get that stellar performance you are dreaming of.

From Jamie on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 21:47:43

Sasha, I look forward to your feedback! I spoke with Hawk & Cheryl Harper at today's Saturday trail run (are you familiar with trail 51 in the hills of Provo canyon?). Their advice was to give my speed/tempo workouts everything I've got (VO2Max) and if I die...so what! There have been a handful of speed workouts this past summer where I definitely pushed my limits. However, they are/have been few and far between. I think I'm afraid of not being able to finish...(whatever distance)

Races included! I tend to make races (especially), tempo workouts instead of pushing hard. I need to get past this. Anyhow, thanks for the advice. I'll see what I can do. Any idea how much I'd pay for a measuring wheel?

Sarah, you are amazing! Your capacity to accomplish all that you do for your children (and your husband) astounds me. On-top of everything you do, you are a great runner! Props go to you!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:21:16

You can get a measuring wheel at

http://www.ohwuala.com/tho/tr/product/10000-FT-BIG-WHEEL-WALKING-TAPE-MEASURE-1015701.html

for $21 + shipping.

For the races, you can just pick somebody out of your league and try to run with them for as long as you can, then coast to the finish if they drop you.

From sarah on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 16:49:17

Sasha says that your Dad teaches horse riding. Could you give me some information about riding lessons...Do you know anyone that takes children? I'm toying with the idea of giving our little girl Jenny a few riding lessons for Christmas. She is 7.

From Jamie on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:39:50

Sarah, here are some websights for info on horseback riding lessons.

utahhorsedirectory.com (stable locations in Utah County)

welcome.net.au/lessons.htm (general info on lessons and pricing...not certain how this will compare to pricing in our county)

Melville Arabians is the closest stable to you, I think. They don't have a web address. An English (style of riding) trainer by the name of Susan (at 367-9492) can answer any of your questions.

My father, Ike Fitzgarrald, works out of Coyote Creek Equestrian Center in Lehi and instructs in English riding. He doesn't often school young riders, but you may call him with questions if you wish.

You can expect to pay probably anywhere from $25-$75 for a lesson. It will vary a good bit from one instructor to another. Lessons are typically given in half-hour to hour sessions. You may want to consider Western riding for a young rider in part because of the deep saddle and because it is a more casual style of riding.

Let me know if you need more info.

From Jamie on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:43:19

Oh, and I forgot to mention that students may choose to take part in group lessons, where a handful of riders take a lesson together. Anyhow, hope this helps.

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